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Noobli
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And yeah! Here's a quote from IGN's MGS4 review:

"Is it possible to give a game an 11? If so, this would be the game that would merit that score."

I do see your point Shadow Eagle (or... Tory?) but it's just that specially on a 0.1 scale if 10/10 wouldn't mean perfect then what would?
It's ambiguous because we should also take into account that you can either score a game on an entertainment value-kind of way which is preferrably more realistic than the other way which basicly looks for perfection that *might* be humanly impossible.
And since a game review is, in a way, one's personal opinion makes it even more complex!
I just try to keep in mind that nothing is perfect and everything is evolving... (Actually... I don't Rolling Eyes )
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Noobli wrote:
And yeah! Here's a quote from IGN's MGS4 review:

"Is it possible to give a game an 11? If so, this would be the game that would merit that score."

I do see your point Shadow Eagle (or... Tory?) but it's just that specially on a 0.1 scale if 10/10 wouldn't mean perfect then what would?
It's ambiguous because we should also take into account that you can either score a game on an entertainment value-kind of way which is preferrably more realistic than the other way which basicly looks for perfection that *might* be humanly impossible.
And since a game review is, in a way, one's personal opinion makes it even more complex!
I just try to keep in mind that nothing is perfect and everything is evolving... (Actually... I don't Rolling Eyes )



A comment like that tries to show a way of saying the game is beyond expectations of a current generation example. I don't think any score can suggest perfection, as like you mentioned in a media-based atmosphere alot of which is presented is percieved through ones opinion. All I'm trying to say is too much importance is placed on scores. You shouldn't base a purchase on whether a game gets an 8, a 9 or a 10. If you did you'd be denying yourself an opportunity to experience many achievements in digital entertainment.

By the way - its pleasing to have someone willing to have an intellegent discussion, without resorting to flaming or an overly biased attitude.

Smile

And yes, its Tory.

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TE Munders
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The scoring system is pure opinion.
Someone could rate SF:IV 9/10 but then a non-fighter fan might give it a 6/10.
NO game (movie, book, song etc) should be given a perfect.
MGS4 wasn't perfect.
10/10 just means that, that person believed it to be a must play/experience/buy.

If a game recives a 10/10 what would it rate 3 months later? 1 year? 10 years?

Games are like ever other form of media. interpreted differently by each individual. If you don't like the genre then can you still score it unbiased?

They're just a rough indication. The difference between a 3/10 and an 8/10 is far more significant than 9/10 vs. 10/10.

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Exactly. As long as there are no misconceptions about a score of 10 meaning "perfect".

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Munders for president!! Laughing

Yep as IGN say the whole purpose of the review is to say whether its worth your money or not.

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Barack Obama all ready took that spot Rolling Eyes

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=65I0HNvTDH4

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We know.. geez

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ooohh... Question

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Shadow Eagle wrote:
By the way - its pleasing to have someone willing to have an intellegent discussion, without resorting to flaming or an overly biased attitude.


I was thinking the same thing Razz

And w00t? A BLACK president?? That's preposterous!
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Who cares BLACK WHITE OR YELLOW!! Wink

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Since when was Homer - president?

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He means Asian lol

I love a good discussion as long as everyone agrees with me in the end. Twisted Evil

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He means Asian lol

I love a good discussion as long as everyone agrees with me in the end. Twisted Evil


Me too Rolling Eyes
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well i guess we got a problem then... Laughing

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TE Munders
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watched a really good mini doco (41 mins) on KZ2 development and GG.
game looks simply amazing!

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Where'd you watch it?

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yeah seen that on the KZ.com forum but ive decided not to watch it..lol

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Um on some dutch site.
It has english subtitles but all talking was dutch.
didn't have any spoilers just how they went about things etc.

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http://www.gamekings.tv/index/videos/minidocu-the-company-behind-killzone-2-full-version-subbed/

here you can find it. it's really cool! no spoilers just many info
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